Post by head_dunce » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:52 am

Ok, so I get it now. The Journal theme, which is so popular, doesn't even feed the guys who make it possible since it's not even sold on the marketplace here. That's a problem. Why is that?

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Post by kestas » Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:07 pm

Journal theme very popular, but problem that dev's of journal do not bother to pay attention to OC community. I mean theme ruined all OC framework. And they, dev's of journal, just make money without investing to OC future. From another hand OC community should, or must solve all the problems, which are caused by this journal theme.
Users of journal theme do not understand that at all. They just think, that journal is very good and impressive theme and just buying it. Users do not understand what is hidden under the impressive looking theme. This is nothing personal... People just make a money. ;)

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Post by head_dunce » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:59 pm

But why isn't it sold on the marketplace here? Must be a reason -- probably money.

I wish the base code just did what Journal does. If Journal doesn't want to help fund the base coders, seems logical to just take their idea away from them since it's very popular.

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Post by OpenCustomer » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:42 pm

sooty wrote:
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We are not all coding Gods, some of us are mere mortals just trying to scratch a living from an ever more difficult environment.
Well said :))

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Post by thekrotek » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:39 pm

head_dunce wrote:
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But why isn't it sold on the marketplace here? Must be a reason -- probably money.
Journal is sold on Envato only. Envato has 2 plans: common license and exclusive rights. The latter means, that seller can't sell his stuff anywhere else. This is why Journal isn't sold on OpenCart Marketplace.

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Post by JNeuhoff » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:49 pm

@thekrotek: So what license do Envato sellers use for illegally copied software, like our Export/Import tool? :D We asked them several times to remove it, because we are the author, not them, and it is licensed under the GPLv3 terms. This is just one example out of many, I wouldn't trust the Envato Market! If Journal was that great then why don't they use proper marketing channels?

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Post by thekrotek » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:29 am

JNeuhoff wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:49 pm
@thekrotek: So what license do Envato sellers use for illegally copied software, like our Export/Import tool? :D We asked them several times to remove it, because we are the author, not them, and it is licensed under the GPLv3 terms. This is just one example out of many, I wouldn't trust the Envato Market! If Journal was that great then why don't they use proper marketing channels?
I agree with you regarding Envato. This is probably the worst software marketplace of them all and I don't understand why people even bother selling their stuff out there. If they don't bother removing illegally copied software, it makes Envato even worse. But question was why Journal isn't available anywhere and I explained it briefly.

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Post by nitin7bb » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:00 pm

If the developers can't provide better support to new the new users, perhaps the community should take the responsibility of helping where they could. ???

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Post by thekrotek » Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:06 am

nitin7bb wrote:
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If the developers can't provide better support to new the new users, perhaps the community should take the responsibility of helping where they could. ???
And community DOES help by giving everyone the best recommendation they can get: never install Journal and live happily ever after.

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Post by goalsurfer » Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:27 pm

Johnathan wrote:
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...purely CSS...
The theme should be in an apart map. Qphoria said that also I think. Please, where is he? Did he get depression from designers that messed with the original code? You would conclude that you can best use the default theme. Everything else gives a worse impression of usability or else you can't use common functions as popular products, latest, and so on because adapting the design is too complicated. But this is about cheaper themes you can buy in the Opencart market place.

I'm very disappointed to hear that even Journal is just trash. Now I don't buy it. I thought already that I did a mistake with buying those cheaper designs but it doesn't matter anymore after have read this threat. Thanks for posting everybody.

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Post by brettpix » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:16 am

I am now stuck with Journal three after it was pushed onto me by Isense Lab.

It has been a nightmare to use and caused untold problems. I only wish I could get out of it.

Shame I did not hear about the negative until it was too late.

Thanks for your directness on this.

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Post by timstudio » Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:41 pm

Stuck with it? Why. Just buy another theme. I you can't afford a second theme there is something else to worry about.

ps, it might be a bad coded theme regarding some standards etc, but i'm using it since 2015. Not for a hobby shop but for a shop that is my income. And yeah, I ran in some problems but most of them had nothing to do with the theme. For the extensions I use, I made sure they worked with journal. And for my kind of business I needed the versatality this theme provides. It's a hard job to master but once you do the advantages outrank the disadvantages. At least in my case.

So I get what some are telling about the theme. But I do not get why some are panicing ' o no, I bought the theme...what now?' Well, if the theme is used by thousands of professional shop why couldn't or shouldn't it run yours? Because it is bad coded? That might be, but it runs error free for years in my case with about 800 visitors a day.

I also get the point that this forum isn't the place people should be generally asking for support.I get that people who dislike this theme refuse to answer. But I don't get why journal users shouldn't help other journal users on this forum. This is the opencart forum, and as far as I know journal runs on opencart. So why just ban journal? A lot of journal users (like me) buy (a lot) of extensions from this site and spread the word on how great opencart is.

I have looked at some of the theme's that are considered to be ok by the hardcore users. Well, I and i guess many just find those themes to limited. My business is heavily graphic orientated. And I learned a lot ( a lot!!) from customers. Oh, I didn't see that. Oh, is it on the right side of the page? Oh, is it below the fold. etc etc. Journal was one of the themes that let me design the complete layout exactly as i wanted it, taking all customers complaints and remarks over the last years into consideration.

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Post by Burt65 » Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:37 pm

thekrotek wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:06 am
And community DOES help by giving everyone the best recommendation they can get: never install Journal and live happily ever after.
Not sure of which community you are referring to!?!

Beside yourself and a handful of other unhappy developers, I don't see anyone else making a fuss about it..
Perhaps you should tell this to the other 23489 Journal users...

It just doesn't make any sense.. But please guys, just continue with this (free advertisement) useless bashing. I can't say for sure, but Journal just sold another 512 copies for the month of December. I think you guys deserve a commission for that.. Normally companies pay fortunes for advertisement!
Helloooo? Is anyone home?? The more you keep bashing and mentioning it, the more the new users, will keep looking for it...

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Post by thekrotek » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:23 pm

Burt65 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:37 pm
Not sure of which community you are referring to!?!
This one.
Burt65 wrote:
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Beside yourself and a handful of other unhappy developers, I don't see anyone else making a fuss about it..
Quite the opposite: most developers today hate the stupid Journal and there're lots of reasons for it.
Burt65 wrote:
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Perhaps you should tell this to the other 23489 Journal users...
And I do, whenever I can.
Burt65 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:37 pm
Helloooo? Is anyone home?? The more you keep bashing and mentioning it, the more the new users, will keep looking for it...
Not exactly. This topic already exists, so it adds nothing to Journal advertising and actually does the opposite: informs store owners looking for a theme that they should never buy this crapware.

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