Post by Qphoria » Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:27 am

http://www.ie6countdown.com/

2011 is going to be a great year! :banana: :clap: :yahoo: :dance:

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Post by Chones » Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:55 am

Oh if it were true! As I posted elsewhere the other day, the UK Govt is stil wedded to it.
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2 ... ep-ie6.ars
The UK government is correct in saying that Microsoft will continue to keep IE6 updated and secure. In fact, the software giant has promised to do so until April 2014.

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Post by Qphoria » Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:58 am

IE6 updated and secure
That is like a double oxymoron!
If the UK gov't is depending on IE6 for security then I see a downfall in your future :) When the only thing left to attack with all the IE6 specific attacks is the UK gov't then they are just holding up a big red target

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Post by openmycart.com » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:01 am

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Post by Chones » Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:01 pm

Yeah, anyone would think we have a bunch of idiots in charge who don't know what they're doing. Oh, wait... ;)

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Post by SXGuy » Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:43 pm

listen, the uk goverment have already deployed the worst online revenue collection service thats ever been invented, where you have to cross your fingers before it lets you log in to file a clients tax return.

Along with their un needed new iXRBL system which means everyone now has to get their head around it and change every type of excel spreadsheet they used for accounting to match the new data submission as its apprently "more Secure".

It doesnt suprise me at all that the uk goverment have also decided they need to keep IE6, because, they just about know how to turn a pc on, let alone upgrade their systems.

You wont have to worry about IE6 attacks on uk goverment systems, because they will probably be down due to overloaded servers anyway :)

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Post by Moggin » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:09 am

SXGuy wrote:listen, the uk goverment have already deployed the worst online revenue collection service thats ever been invented...
that's so true...You end up howling 'Who designed this? What were they taking?? '

This year's 'short' return had us delving about in arcane Adobe security settings just so we could start work with it - and the fun didn't stop there. IE6 could be the least of our worries.. :clown:

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Post by SXGuy » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:53 am

Moggin wrote:
SXGuy wrote:listen, the uk goverment have already deployed the worst online revenue collection service thats ever been invented...
that's so true...You end up howling 'Who designed this? What were they taking?? '

This year's 'short' return had us delving about in arcane Adobe security settings just so we could start work with it - and the fun didn't stop there. IE6 could be the least of our worries.. :clown:
my only expierence with short returns, were the short paper SA's, which were apprently only ment as a trial, but 20 percent of our client base seem to get one each year, just ends up being shredded.

But i guess, its not all bad, they seem to be crediting tax due as one of their biggest f up's this year, so swings and round abouts really lol!

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Post by philbydevil » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:30 pm

This should be in the core ;)

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<!--[if lt IE 7]> <div style=' clear: both; height: 59px; padding:0 0 0 15px; position: relative;'> <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/default.aspx?ocid=ie6_countdown_bannercode"><img src="http://www.theie6countdown.com/images/upgrade.jpg" border="0" height="42" width="820" alt="" /></a></div> <![endif]-->

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Post by twiggy » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:04 pm

Not yet it still holds 11% of the browser market http://opencart.co/?p=58 and microsoft will not stop supporting it untill 2014 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... /lifecycle

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Post by OC2PS » Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:37 pm

Qphoria wrote:http://www.ie6countdown.com/

2011 is going to be a great year!
Actually, for anybody paying attention, it's not just IE6 but also IE7 that's being killed. Free at last, free at last, thank God we're free at last.

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<!--[if lt IE 8]> <div style=' clear: both; height: 59px; padding:0 0 0 15px; position: relative;'> <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/default.aspx?ocid=ie6_countdown_bannercode"><img src="http://www.theie6countdown.com/images/upgrade.jpg" border="0" height="42" width="820" alt="You are using an outdated browser. For a faster, safer browsing experience, upgrade for free today." /></a></div> <![endif]-->
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Post by SapporoGuy » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:33 pm

I was thinking of this ie6/7 problem the other day.
Did anybody actually stop to consider who are those 10%?

Check out the stats and you'll see a large percentage of the people not upgrading will never upgrade!
nothing like $2 XP install DVDs with keys :laugh:

Also, I am figuring that I'm probably loosing more money by trying to code for those 2 browsers than actually sales lost.
Think about it ... you pay for compatibility to protect 10% of your sales. Which is costing you more?

And, by helping people stay in the dinosaur age you are only adding to the problem.

Not to mention, how much the world looses everyday on support and virus software to support those 2 products.

They were good back in the day but so were cars that got 5 mpg!

Save money and reduce the eco-print!

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Post by Qphoria » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:53 am

SapporoGuy wrote:I was thinking of this ie6/7 problem the other day.
Did anybody actually stop to consider who are those 10%?

Check out the stats and you'll see a large percentage of the people not upgrading will never upgrade!
nothing like $2 XP install DVDs with keys :laugh:
Yep.. its the same 10% who don't buy things online because they think the internet is a conspiracy and that if you have your wallet next to your keyboard, hackers can put a virus on your computer and steal your credit card numbers based on proximity. So it is pretty much people that i don't care about

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Post by SapporoGuy » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:22 am

ROFL :laugh:

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Post by twiggy » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:44 am

Qphoria wrote: Yep.. its the same 10% who don't buy things online because they think the internet is a conspiracy and that if you have your wallet next to your keyboard, hackers can put a virus on your computer and steal your credit card numbers based on proximity. So it is pretty much people that i don't care about
lol you will find most of them are state run computer systems.
SapporoGuy wrote: Also, I am figuring that I'm probably loosing more money by trying to code for those 2 browsers than actually sales lost.
Think about it ... you pay for compatibility to protect 10% of your sales. Which is costing you more?
For the extra hour of work it takes to make your site work with IE6 I think its worth it to not rule out 10% of customers.

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Post by SapporoGuy » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:36 am

If that is the case then definitely it would be worth it.

To be honest, I am not partial in browser coverage since I lived through years of mac os browsers being not supported. Even though M$ made a decent browser for the mac (actually it was better than others) they still didn't even support a majority of their proprietary functions that their SP version enjoyed.

Still, the public should really upgrade to a more modern browser to help save the world money ;)

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Post by Qphoria » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:37 am

twiggy wrote:
lol you will find most of them are state run computer systems.

For the extra hour of work it takes to make your site work with IE6 I think its worth it to not rule out 10% of customers.
I doubt state workers are using their inhouse IE6 system to buy online.. I think you are definitely in the minority of people who are willing to bother with ie6 compatibility nowadays.

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Post by twiggy » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:28 pm

Qphoria wrote:
twiggy wrote:
lol you will find most of them are state run computer systems.

For the extra hour of work it takes to make your site work with IE6 I think its worth it to not rule out 10% of customers.
I doubt state workers are using their inhouse IE6 system to buy online.. I think you are definitely in the minority of people who are willing to bother with ie6 compatibility nowadays.
They are not likely to be purchasing items from mine or your store Q but for a general store selling cloth, household good ect then I think it will be important. I know when I worked in a state run institute all we did all day was browse online and do some shooping :)

Agree sapporo it would make life easier but for the moment at least for e-commerce sites I will be supporting IE6 can't rule out that possible 10% of sales before they even reach my store.

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Post by Qphoria » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:33 pm

The solution is simple really... If website owners would add a script that redirects people using IE6 to a porn site... IE6 could have been killed off long ago. I think I'll add that to the default opencart in the next version ;)

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Post by Sidecutter » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:27 am

Qphoria wrote:The solution is simple really... If website owners would add a script that redirects people using IE6 to a porn site... IE6 could have been killed off long ago. I think I'll add that to the default opencart in the next version ;)
Yeah but whatever portion of your possible customers didn't swear to never deal with you again would actually consider that a feature! :laugh:

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