Post by henkbart » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:29 pm

Hello,
As of 28th of May 2018 there will be new privacy rules in the EU (All EU countries).
We then must have prove of customers agree to terms, privacy etc. So the simple agree clickbox is NOT sufficient.
The owner of the webshop must have prove of when someone agree to something and keep records of this.
So this must be stored and administrated in the webshop software.
The penalties for NOT doing this are severe. For worldwide companies it can be 10% of the worldwide sales!!!!
I hope that there will be options for the OpenCart software to implement this (in the Base software or as add-ons)

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Post by straightlight » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:57 pm

If payment providers are willing to add a new field that has a political view to it, I am sure by then the architects will make the adjustments to their API.

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Post by Reptile » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:09 am

This will be impossible to check.
As from now you can’t checkout with agreeing to the terms there for you can presume your customer has agreed to/read your terms.

What different will it be if you store the checkbox value of true to the database and display it in your Admin?
This still will not prove if the customer has read the terms.

Only prove you can gather is let your customer sent you a signed letter by post that they agree and then you can store it.
But no one will do this.

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Post by straightlight » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:24 am

Only prove you can gather is let your customer sent you a signed letter by post that they agree and then you can store it.
But no one will do this.
Not entirely true. There are products on-demand where Enterprise users are being amended to fill electronic signatures in order to complete their checkout orders within an organization without the need to fill terms and conditions by postal mail. Financial institutions may also collect information regarding check marked agreement with check boxes whenever a dispute has been filed as long as the policy agreement of the Business to where the goods were purchased by customers were and still are legate.

Which is why, whenever a new policy is implied electronically, payment providers do have to consider those changes under the PCI Compliance policy.

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Post by Burt65 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:28 pm

henkbart wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:29 pm
Hello,
As of 28th of May 2018 there will be new privacy rules in the EU (All EU countries).
We then must have prove of customers agree to terms, privacy etc. So the simple agree clickbox is NOT sufficient.
The owner of the webshop must have prove of when someone agree to something and keep records of this.
So this must be stored and administrated in the webshop software.
The penalties for NOT doing this are severe. For worldwide companies it can be 10% of the worldwide sales!!!!
I hope that there will be options for the OpenCart software to implement this (in the Base software or as add-ons)

Henk
Hi Henk

My understanding of this legislation is that, if you intend to store and use any of your customers private details (sensitive data) without their consent, you'll need to provide proof of such agreement if taken to court. Without proof of consent, you will be punish by law

http://ec.europa.eu/justice/data-protec ... dex_en.htm

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/ ... 16:119:TOC

I also found another article where there is a reference for this new legislation designed to target emails and phone spam.. What they say is that, if you intend to use any of your customer private data such as phone or email (this is not classified sensitive data), you better have tangible proof of their consent otherwise again, you will be punishable in a Court of law

Certainly this legislation it is more aimed at forcing company to follow the rules regarding better protecting "personal sensitive data" and being used for the right reasons, than business being force to collect proof for the standard customer agreement of an online shop. Obviously if your customer agreement explicit says that you have the right to sell or give to other affiliated companies the customer personal details(sensitive or not), then yes you will need a more tangible agreement, that can be use in Court..

Also if you collect customers personal sensitive data (like Credit Card numbers, age, birthday, sex...) on your own computer or private server, If yes then this legislation apply to you, regarding being able to prove the safe keeping and use of such data. (This is not something new anyway)
If not, then is nearly business as usual...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connect/smal ... -changing/

This could be good...

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